Not downing any other format (I more and more want a GFX-50 S just because) but even on M43 I could get all the Tonehs of bokeh that I need to get if I was careful. That's all. Well, the APS-C ISO 200-400 and F5.6-F8 = FF ISO 470-940 and F8.6-F12 on FF. Thread starter Gatotlie; Start date Jun 16, 2012; Gatotlie New Member. And of course sensor is little bit larger as exactly film does!!! Panasonic however have that nailed IMO and I will happily choose them over ( FF or m43 ) over Sony. Subscription costs have also increased. Fujifilm would go MF 'Texas Leica' before they ever went 35mm small format. Many cameras can only do 1/4000 (including the X100), which is not great and a PITA, because it forces us to use ND (or CPL) filters. But we haven't seen an RX1 model for almost five years now. The concept of a "B" camera is non-specific to makes or models. Because the Fuji X100S has an APS-C format sensor, the lens produces images on a par with a 34.5mm lens on a full-frame camera. Hyped on the V for weather sealing.. but there are more than occasional reports of overheating issues. From all this words you need to able to understand that your desires and needs are not universal. Lets consider using a Fuji body with the 56mm f/1.2 lens, and a full-frame Canon with the equivalent focal length 85mm f/1.2 L lens. DSLRs still rule for dedicated sports and action. Fuji: Please make a digital X-PAN, who already did it with a film camera. I shoot a lot of low light, a great deal of sports (including night lights sport) and a fair amount of video. Market is so saturated that as previous Full Frame Canon, Nikon, Sony owner and now i have T3...if i want Full Frame system i will go buy one... Barney, Good article. And you are capable enough to read A9 specs why did you not read about sensor size?? And yes, it focuses plenty fast enough for my needs. Silly troll :). Granted, when you are getting paid then it makes sense to optimise your gear, but even then most people want pictures for digital consumption and a lot of the time m43 will do just fine if the glass is good.If you define image quality as sitting in front of a 5k monitor and gazing at 100%, crop, then you aren’t really a photographer IMO.Most cameras are “ good enough” . I’ve been there, trying to advise people, when they ask for "a good camera". It also has no video! The irony of seeing people shooting huge FF rigs at Disney and then sharing the images with family using an iPad seems completely lost to them. i'd love a FF fixed frame or interchangeable range finder style fuji. I think full frame @ f2.8 tends to be far better than apsc @ f2 for high for sharpness across the frame. No my friend you are talking total mess! Gonna wait and see, but I am almost leaning towards going with a used F versus a new V. A full frame X100 with a 40mm f2 lens is my dream camera. Samsung has unveiled a trio of new Galaxy smartphones, the S21, S21 Plus and S21 Ultra. The rest of us that might actually utilise high resolution print already have a plethora of choice. So it was like lightning strike in the middle of the room. The x100 enters Fuji into an interesting place in the market. By the way, I hope the full review will be soon release !!! That's your 35mm. “ image quality” is banded around but it is meaningless. I love my high-res FF camera, and I'm glad its not a Fuji. "could be shot with EVERY camera format" - No. A compact FF, with a great lens, is such a good combination, that I do believe, camera manufacturers afraid of cannibalizing their own products. On a technical level, the "B" camera can't do anything your "A" camera can't. This is in any condition with any lens does not matter what you do you get 1 stop more?!?!" So what?! It's one thing to make a mechanical camera small and an entirely different thing to squeeze all the components of a digital camera into the same size body. I'm a little shocked that anyone in 2020 is still complaining about Xtrans worm artifacts.. even my Linux box handles XTrans files just fine. The lens is a 23mm f/2 (about the Filed of View from a 35mm full frame … A pity, as my tiny and light vintage Zuiko lenses are some of my greatest legacy treasures. I'd keep it for size alone but it would mean shooting with two sets of controls which is an obstacle to building muscle memory. FF users have their own needs and requirements (and wants as well), and are willing to pay the higher price.Of course, there is cost associated with any new product, and the entry of a FF body may switch some current X100 APS-C customers, but they remain Fuji customers. Mr Bolton: but to be serious, They are asking a consumer camera company, that is making several types of consumer cameras, to make one other type of camera. A pocketable form factor to stay discreet, A lens with a wider focal length (between 23mm - 50mm) and a fast aperture, Speedy autofocus to nail those candid moments, Simple controls for a second shooter to quickly acclimate to, Flexible metering modes to ensure correct exposure in a variety of compositions and lighting situations. Over the course of almost ten years, the company has built the X100 series into an iconic line of cameras, which established Fujifilm as a serious brand with enthusiasts, and continue to be best-sellers. Hello! But, if you insist, I must point out that there are no native GF F1.2 or F1.4 lenses to talk about. However it is a misguided assumption that a bigger sensor is better for creative output and all else be damned. Why buy a dedicated camera that offers same things as my phone? (Ideally with a 24mp or less bsi bayer sensor optimized for low light shooting). You cannot produce the same results with whatever camera format. Full frame is head and shoulders above any smaller format, whether APS-C or god forbid MFT. !So no 35mm is not universal better format!Yes in most of the systems you have much wider choice of lenses and accessories. While Medium format might replace the FF in flagship camera models. I'm a big Fuji fan (meaning I own and shoot literally almost all of their GFX and X cameras and lenses) and I have been saying on DPR almost weekly for the last 5 years that Fuji will never, ever even think about going FF on anything. Full frame is everything they say it is and more. But lets see how affordable is 1/32000, 35mm format camera:Sony Cyber-shot DSC-RX100 VA - 848$ - 20Mpix, Up to 24 fps burst, up to 1000fps slow mo HD movie!FUJIFILM X-T30 - 799.95$ - 26.1Mpix - 1/32000, up to 30fps burst!Panasonic Lumix DC-G9 - 997.99$ - 20.3Mpix, 1/32000, up to 60fps burst, Sony Alpha a9 - 3498$ - without lens!!! Good for you! They do not ask them to make a very special or niche camera, just to make a FF camera, a camera that fits nicely in their line up.Will Fuji do it? BTW I had shot few images from week before with APS-C camera, with kit lens - f3.5, 1/125, ISO 25600 with very poor yellowish dim lights. I think a full frame x100 is an inevitability. It's too expensive2. And it would make a great second camera along with a GFX. If strictly video, I'd choose the X-T3 (or now the X-T4, though I haven't shot or investigated the latter). Sorry but Image sensors don't work like solar panels. What's the best camera for shooting landscapes? The camera has a fixed 23mm f/2 lens on it that delivers an angle of view that’s equivalent to a 35mm lens on a full frame camera, but Fuji have been selling two conversion lenses for a number of years. In fact the applications where FF is really necessary is limited to very high resolution requirements or very challenging low light situations with moving subjects. !Of course if you get crappy 6D or RP with poorest DR and noise from all sensors in last decade you can go cheaper, with 1/4000 and 6.5 fps for 6D2 and 5fps for RP. Also, the cannibalization argument only makes sense if Fujfilm were to continue to make exactly the same lineup of APS-C and MF cameras - I would imagine they'd rearrange their product lineup if they ever decided to make FF cameras. Stop whining about ISO 25600 and F1.2 and get smaller lenses.An insane amount of stupid things were done in human history. The lens is horrible with huge spherical aberration when focusing close and not all that sharp when focusing far. Still don't want to live with its limitations. "We are beyond sufficiently, if you find the DR of an M100 limiting, it is actually you the photographer that is the limitation and solely to blame.". My PC has enough power to process the 4k and 6k raw vid files in almost realtime and the network can handle 100mbs streams or better. @UncoyDP - this is nonsense! If you are a photographer who focuses primarily on the image, then really any camera will do for 90% of cases. Unfortunately, it attracts all sort of ignorant gear fetishists, who deny any connections between the gear and the images. Skill and understanding of output is what really makes the difference. Costco has informed U.S. and Canadian customers that all in-store camera departments will be shut down on February 14, 2021. You don’t need cheap easy storage, you actually need output that would require anything over 36mp, it just isn’t there or even necessary for the 99% purchasing this camera. The best high-end camera costing more than $2000 should have plenty of resolution, exceptional build quality, good 4K video capture and top-notch autofocus for advanced and professional users. I literally have nothing in common with you. It was large as SLR bodies. We want that camera at Fuji prices, not Leica prices. We've been pressing on with our review of Panasonic's Lumix S5, and have put it in front of our studio scene to see what it can do. I do not care about sensor size! Leica just made a $1700 m43 10-25mm f1.7 zoom that people seem to be throwing down for on the regular to mate with their GH5 and E-M1-II, neither of which are a cheap camera to start with. For one it is very difficult to produce a convincing video of a scene that doesn’t have amateur “noise” ie: poor editing, low resources and bad sound. It's harder for people to relax in front of them, and you'll have to work through stiffness and nerves until you and your subject get in to the flow of things. But if you’re already invested in your arsenal of gear, you owe it to yourself to learn how to store your camera and lenses – before your lenses lock up on a shoot or your resale value plummets. "35mm senors with ultra expensive lenses ultra isolated special tool""we need good and affordable lenses for smaller sensors"- Nonsense! And with time they will fade away into oblivion. Had Sony Nex 5n, Olympus EM10, X-T2, Canon 6D, Canon 5D mark 3 and now have EOS R. None of these cameras, with any lens I used, is comparable to what RX1 produce. To say that the design of the Fujifilm X100 caused a stir among enthusiast photographers is a … The cool film simulation modes can also be applied to video. But before you go and pull the trigger on a Zorki-3C rangefinder, we suggest reading the guide below, from our pals at KosmoFoto. Certainly, the X-Pro1 and X-E1 resolved more detail in our tests than we would have expected from a 16-million-pixel camera – the images were very sharp. @ecka84 - Exactly this is the point! But they did it. Their talents were astonishing. There are size advantages that are real, there are no theoretical FF camera lens combos that exist to compete with the small form factor offered by crop. So I shoot some with higher ISO and some without flash.I am sharing all this so you will understand how capable is decent APS-C sensor. It does not matter if you agree with me or not because I have truth on my side - the most significant truth being the collapse of camera sales. Fujifilm makes the drug favipiravir.Early tests show it is effective for treating COVID-19. A six year old X100T sells for around 50% of new. It would be a better choice at this price point for all too many reasons. That was one of their biggest challenges. 50F1.4? Montana in Williamsburg for Brompton. So we see marketing screwing market again and again. Because you like to be scientific again remember this!Also there are different sizes APS-C but again they are APS-C because this is the standard! Leica can get away with selling their massive $5,000 Q2 only because they are Leica. Full frame is not more expensive at equivalent light and aperture. Fujfilm had a good go at less noisy high ISO APS-C but the trade-off was this: at higher ISO, remove almost all the colour (colour noise gone). Well, I think Porsche should make an 18-wheeler, and Kenworth a super exotic sports car... they say no but anyway let’s keep wasting our time talking about the impossible. If the MF X100 offers a TCL and a WCL option, it could even cut into the Phase and Hasselblad holdouts who need a leaf shutter. So, there would be enough lenses even at the beginning. "Polite" vs. "rude"?Try to be respective of other people's opinions. When robots will do all the work and grant wishes, basically :). And which FF? Film is growing in sales year on year.... That would be a very expensive "one-trick pony" :)). The 35mm F1.4 GM brings one of photography's classic focal lengths to Sony's G Master series of lenses. Especially for Rugged Cameras and Weather Sealed SuperZooms. Olympus in particular had an incredible legacy in high quality compact gear. Likewise, looks like some of the glass is cheaper - for example, the Fuji 16-55/2.8 is currently $900 whereas full frame 24-70/2.8 are more like $2k. It’s like I stumbled onto buzzfeed or something. At $1,200 the X100 seems to be a quite expensive camera but the main competition the Leica X1 costs nearly twice as much. Or will have slow motion up to 960fps (!!!) I think you’ll find that most cameras featured here are stills based with video being the secondary function of the camera. But a medium format sensor in a larger but still compact for medium format form favor? Sometimes you can deliver these to the client and delight them, which is a great way to impress and encourage future work. I have several images over the years published in magazines and exhibitions, from film to digital (even with the first 6mp Canon camera) so there is no need to explain anything to you. Also its lens is a lot better. These extreme statements just dilute the argument by so obviously trying to linguistically force an opinion as a substitute for any real substance in the argument. Self-stalker like...... but in 35-36mm range :D. The cult of FF is absurd. I see no reason for APC-C users to be annoyed if Fuji makes a FF body.Canon, Nikon, Sony, ..., are all producing both formats, and no group is annoyed by the other. @Photofuntimes, Any full frame camera from Nikon or Canon made in the last ten years is more than enough camera for any competent photographer. ;). We think it could be a good fit for photographers of all kinds – find out more in our full review. Look at the current FIAT 500L - it is such a SUVesque monstrous version of the 500 that I never understood why it came to be in the first place. What about the 85F1.4L IS?If I'm buying a GFX camera, I'm not interested in compromising the image quality by using zoom lenses on it.What about Sigma Art primes? But when its a duck, lets call it a duck. And if there is no risk of cannibalisation, then shut up about it. I wonder if the arrival of the Sony A7c might start to change Fujifilm's minds a little. You've been brainwashed with all sorts of pseudo-scientific and non-scientific populistic mantras. They should make it with a 28mm f2,0 equivalent lens. And at same time you are not able to understand simple text provided to you kindly. High resolution, weather-sealed bodies and wide dynamic range are all important. T3 is a 14-bit camera.GFX100 is a 16-bit camera.Where's the BS? We are retrieving offers for your location, please refresh the page to see the prices. But the arguments I hear about FF versus APS-C such as cost, larger lenses and camera bodies versus the improved image quality exist for MF versus FF. "SAME lenses you get SAME amount of light" - Nonsense! Waiting for it to make my final choice (upgrade to F or V). Spoiler alert, its JPEG engine and high-res mode are both really impressive. Full Frame fixed lens? @Daft Punk - yes about FF cult, and yes about image quality. There's quite a few quality options out there and many can be had for a reasonable price. ZERO. So pour a tall cold one and get ready to treat yourself, 2020 style. BibleGirl in Herald Square, Manhattan. "Five reasons..." I would say the best reason being that Fujifilm execs have already said the company will not enter the FF market. Optimized for low light would mean 12MP like the A7S. NEW: High-ISO Comparisons of the Nikon D1, D3 (D700), D4, D800, D7000 and Canon 5D, 5D Mark II, 5D Mark III and Fuji X-Pro1 and X100 06 April 2012 . Better to go cheap medium format ;) much better for the market. Both of them are not size in mm exactly as your favorite marketing scam FF is not! After so many years of Fujifilm reps bashing FF and spreading lies about it, it would be rather disgraceful to start making FF cameras all of a sudden :)). Crippled video is why I don't shoot Canon any more (got tired of carrying second set of gear and maintaining a second set of lenses to shoot video). And this is how APS format comes to live:"Advanced Photo System (APS) is a discontinued film format for still photography first produced in 1996. Full frame photography was once the preserve of the hefty DSLR, but as the mirrorless bandwagon gains traction, we are now seeing a number of full frame mini marvels emerging on … Anything else? What’s the best camera costing over $2500? I mean the Q2 is basically my dream camera but I can’t afford Leica.Nikon cameras and lenses have terrific quality and at lower cost. Fuji X100F. Fixed lens digital cameras have a five year shelf life with no resale value at the end. Not every 35mm sensor is superior to smaller sensors and not in every aspect. Once you learn that 2+2=4, you don't need any second opinions to consider.So, yeah ... stay safe! Try to think on single pixel level. I’m a big fan of Fuji, I’ve rekindled my interest in Nikon and I’m finding Sony cameras hard to love. Still place in the market for inexpensive and amazing with Fuji ergonomics. Only Lightroom with Enhance Details (Machine learning) can remove them up to 80% on RAWs from my experience. Not by creating another ultra expansive product!!!! 135F1.8?Wait, vignetting. people are no fun :), @ecka84 did you finally learned about sensor format size? Fuji X100: Photography magic in a single frame. I would love a Nikon full frame Leica Q2 type camera. A more promising road for Fuji to take is joining the L mount grouping and make a FF (Kleinbild) body. Black and white only versions of anything must have a very limited market and very much for the Leica zone of users and probably does need to cost what they charge to get a return. In an article published by ICAN Management Review, Sigma CEO Kazuto Yamaki speaks to the future of the company, including the possibility of RF/Z mount Sigma lenses, future camera systems and more. We know the ”one-stop less DoF... and the ”less noise @ ISO 756,400” arguments, not a big deal in real-life situations and hardly noticeable in prints. All of you folks who invested large in MFT and APS-C are simply on the wrong trail. We need cheaper, much bigger and simple storage and share concepts than what the cloud can provide. Jun 16, 2012 #1 hi, ive been shooting with my x100 since January and really love the camera. While going through the catalogue of photos from my past two shoots, I noticed that my "B" camera shots caught my eye far more than I expected. OK if you say so. 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